Jungle Matchup

Graves vs Talon

Patch: 15.18 (25.18)
League: Platinum+
Graves

Graves

the Outlaw
Jungle
Graves Jungle Overall Win Rate
49.70%

Matchup Win Rate

45.3%
Graves vs Talon Wins
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54.7%
Talon vs Graves Wins
Talon

Talon

the Blade's Shadow
Jungle
Talon Jungle Overall Win Rate
51.16%

Graves vs Talon - Jungle Matchup Guide Patch 15.18 (25.18)

Graves Jungle vs Talon Jungle - Who is stronger?

Talon Jungle counters Graves hard (45.3% win rate) based on 549 games. This matchup is really difficult for Graves players.

View detailed statistics below: items, runes, and counter builds for Graves Jungle vs Talon Jungle in patch 15.18 (25.18), including win rates and pick rates. With proper study, this can improve your chances of victory up to 59.4% in this matchup.

Statistical Matchup Analysis

Current meta showdown: Graves (4.4% pick rate, 14th most popular out of 60 Jungle champions) versus Talon (3.7%, 20th place). These two jungle titans clash constantly, making matchup mastery a decisive factor in your climb. Every edge matters: In this tough matchup, the proven Dark Harvest + Sudden Impact combination (46.9% win rate) plus optimal itemization Youmuu's Ghostblade, The Collector, Infinity Edge, and Plated Steelcaps boosts your chances from 45.3% to 59.4% - potentially game-changing.

Farm your way back: Graves's superior farming (7.68 vs 7.37/min, 1st among Jungle) offers a comeback path. Focus on safe CSing and capitalize on your 0.31 CS/min natural advantage. Damage doesn't equal wins: Graves outputs more damage (812 vs 676/min, 2nd place) but still loses the matchup. The issue likely lies in survivability, mobility, or damage timing rather than raw output. Complete dominance by Talon: leads in both matchup win rate (54.7%) and KDA (2.60 vs 2.50, 32nd vs 40th place). Graves players need exceptional preparation to overcome this counter-pick.

Graves vs Talon - Jungle Stats Comparison

Graves Jungle
Graves Jungle		Versus
Talon Jungle
Talon Jungle
B+TierA+
45.3%Matchup Winrate54.7%
49.70%Role Winrate51.16%
#39Winrate Rank#17
4.4%Pickrate3.7%
2.5Average KDA2.6
492Gold per Minute456
7.68CS/Min7.37
0.20Wards per Minute0.19
812Damage per Minute676

How to Beat Talon as Graves (Jungle)

Difficult matchup requiring deep understanding of game mechanics and flawless execution. Patience and proper macro play are the keys to victory in this confrontation.

Except for rare builds, Graves deals physical damage. Focus on eliminating enemy carries. Talon deals mainly physical damage (93.81%), additional items against this damage type may be required against snowballing or aggressive play.

An important advantage of Graves is higher farming statistics (ranked 1st among role champions) (versus 4th for Talon), which provides a stable gold advantage in extended games and allows faster access to key items. Meanwhile, their higher KDA (2.6 versus 2.5) suggests they participate more effectively in team fights.

Key aspects of the Graves Jungle versus Talon Jungle matchup

In this difficult confrontation, it is critically important for the Graves player to avoid attempts to force trades and all-ins with the Talon player, as the matchup requires a patient and calculated approach. Extended trades without clear tactical advantage often lead to unfavorable consequences, and ignoring opportunities to receive team support can be a fatal mistake for game progression.

Graves vs Talon: Jungle Summoner Spells

Most Popular

Flash
Flash Teleports you a short distance toward your cursor.
Smite
Smite Deals true damage to a monster or minion.
44.9% Win Rate72.3% Pick Rate

Highest Win Rate

Flash
Flash Teleports you a short distance toward your cursor.
Smite
Smite Deals true damage to a monster or minion.
71.0% Win Rate1.8% Pick Rate

Graves vs Talon: Jungle Runes

Most Frequent Runes

Primary Path
Domination
Dark Harvest
Dark Harvest Damaging a Champion below 50% health deals adaptive damage and harvests their soul, permanently increasing Dark Harvest's damage by 11.

Dark Harvest damage: 30 (+11 damage per soul) (+0.1 bonus AD) (+0.05 AP)
Cooldown: 35s (resets to 1.0s on takedown)

Dark Harvest

Damaging a Champion below 50% health deals adaptive damage and harvests their soul, perma…

Sudden Impact
Sudden Impact Damaging basic attacks and abilities deal a bonus 20 - 80 True Damage based on level to enemy champions after using a dash, leap, blink, teleport, or when leaving stealth for 4s.

Cooldown: 10s

Sudden Impact

Damaging basic attacks and abilities deal a bonus 20 - 80 True Damage based on …

Grisly Mementos
Grisly Mementos Collect 1 memento on champion takedowns, up to 18 total.

Gain 6 Trinket Haste for each collected. In game modes where vision Trinkets do not exist, instead gain 3 Summoner Spell Haste.

Grisly Mementos

Collect 1 memento on champion takedowns, up to 18 total.Gain 6 Trinket Haste fo…

Treasure Hunter
Treasure Hunter Gain an additional 50 gold the next time you collect a Bounty Hunter stack. Increase the gold gained by 20 gold for each Bounty Hunter stack, up to 130 gold.

Bounty Hunter stacks are earned the first time you get a takedown on each enemy champion.

Treasure Hunter

Gain an additional 50 gold the next time you collect a Bounty Hunter stack. Inc…

Secondary Path
Precision
Triumph
Triumph Takedowns restore 5% of your missing health, 2.5% of your max health, and grant an additional 20 gold.


'The most dangerous game brings the greatest glory.'
—Noxian Reckoner

Triumph

Takedowns restore 5% of your missing health, 2.5% of your max health, and grant…

Legend: Alacrity
Legend: Alacrity Gain 3% attack speed plus an additional 1.5% for every Legend stack (max 10 stacks).

Earn progress toward Legend stacks for every champion takedown, epic monster takedown, large monster kill, and minion kill.

Legend: Alacrity

Gain 3% attack speed plus an additional 1.5% for every Legend stack (max 10 sta…

Adaptive
Attack Speed
Attack Speed Increases attack speed by 10%

Attack Speed

Increases attack speed by 10%

Adaptive Force
Adaptive Force Grants 9 Attack Damage or 9 Ability Power

Adaptive Force

Grants 9 Attack Damage or 9 Ability Power

Scaling Health
Scaling Health Increases health from 10 to 180 HP across levels 1-18

Scaling Health

Increases health from 10 to 180 HP across levels 1-18

46.9% Win Rate75.2% Pick Rate

Best Win Rate Runes

Primary Path
Domination
Dark Harvest
Dark Harvest Damaging a Champion below 50% health deals adaptive damage and harvests their soul, permanently increasing Dark Harvest's damage by 11.

Dark Harvest damage: 30 (+11 damage per soul) (+0.1 bonus AD) (+0.05 AP)
Cooldown: 35s (resets to 1.0s on takedown)

Dark Harvest

Damaging a Champion below 50% health deals adaptive damage and harvests their soul, perma…

Sudden Impact
Sudden Impact Damaging basic attacks and abilities deal a bonus 20 - 80 True Damage based on level to enemy champions after using a dash, leap, blink, teleport, or when leaving stealth for 4s.

Cooldown: 10s

Sudden Impact

Damaging basic attacks and abilities deal a bonus 20 - 80 True Damage based on …

Grisly Mementos
Grisly Mementos Collect 1 memento on champion takedowns, up to 18 total.

Gain 6 Trinket Haste for each collected. In game modes where vision Trinkets do not exist, instead gain 3 Summoner Spell Haste.

Grisly Mementos

Collect 1 memento on champion takedowns, up to 18 total.Gain 6 Trinket Haste fo…

Treasure Hunter
Treasure Hunter Gain an additional 50 gold the next time you collect a Bounty Hunter stack. Increase the gold gained by 20 gold for each Bounty Hunter stack, up to 130 gold.

Bounty Hunter stacks are earned the first time you get a takedown on each enemy champion.

Treasure Hunter

Gain an additional 50 gold the next time you collect a Bounty Hunter stack. Inc…

Secondary Path
Precision
Triumph
Triumph Takedowns restore 5% of your missing health, 2.5% of your max health, and grant an additional 20 gold.


'The most dangerous game brings the greatest glory.'
—Noxian Reckoner

Triumph

Takedowns restore 5% of your missing health, 2.5% of your max health, and grant…

Legend: Alacrity
Legend: Alacrity Gain 3% attack speed plus an additional 1.5% for every Legend stack (max 10 stacks).

Earn progress toward Legend stacks for every champion takedown, epic monster takedown, large monster kill, and minion kill.

Legend: Alacrity

Gain 3% attack speed plus an additional 1.5% for every Legend stack (max 10 sta…

Adaptive
Attack Speed
Attack Speed Increases attack speed by 10%

Attack Speed

Increases attack speed by 10%

Adaptive Force
Adaptive Force Grants 9 Attack Damage or 9 Ability Power

Adaptive Force

Grants 9 Attack Damage or 9 Ability Power

Scaling Health
Scaling Health Increases health from 10 to 180 HP across levels 1-18

Scaling Health

Increases health from 10 to 180 HP across levels 1-18

46.9% Win Rate75.2% Pick Rate

Graves vs Talon: Jungle Item Builds

Most Popular Build

Starting Items
Stealth Ward
Stealth Ward (0 gold) Active (210 - 120s, max 2 charges)
Places an Invisible Stealth Ward that grants vision for 90-120 seconds.
Scorchclaw Pup
Scorchclaw Pup (450 gold) Jungle Companions
Summon a Scorchclaw that assists you against monsters.
Scorchclaw's Slash
The companion grows as you hunt monsters, empowering your Smite. When fully grown, it periodically imbues your next Attack or Ability to burn enemies and Slow them. Killing large monsters readies this immediately.
Health Potion
Health Potion (50 gold) Consume
Restores 120 Health over 15 seconds.
47.6% Win Rate43.8% Pick Rate
Popular Boots
Plated Steelcaps
Plated Steelcaps (1200 gold) 25 Armor
45 Move Speed
Plating
Reduces incoming damage from Attacks by 10%.
49.8% Win Rate42.0% Pick Rate
Mercury's Treads
Mercury's Treads (1250 gold) 20 Magic Resist
45 Move Speed
30% Tenacity
50.3% Win Rate28.0% Pick Rate
Berserker's Greaves
Berserker's Greaves (1100 gold) 25% Attack Speed
45 Move Speed
46.5% Win Rate4.7% Pick Rate
Core Build
Serrated Dirk
Serrated Dirk (1000 gold) 20 Attack Damage
10 Lethality
->
Youmuu's Ghostblade
Youmuu's Ghostblade (2800 gold) 55 Attack Damage
18 Lethality
4% Move Speed
Haunt
Gain Move Speed while out of combat.
Wraith Step
Gain Move Speed and Ghosting for seconds.
The Collector
The Collector (3000 gold) 50 Attack Damage
10 Lethality
25% Critical Strike Chance
Death
Your damage executes champions that are below 5% Health.
Taxes
Champion kills grant 25 bonus gold.
Lord Dominik's Regards
Lord Dominik's Regards (3100 gold) 35 Attack Damage
40% Armor Penetration
25% Critical Strike Chance
57.1% Win Rate33.0% Pick Rate
Final Build
Infinity Edge
Infinity Edge (3450 gold) 65 Attack Damage
25% Critical Strike Chance
40% Critical Strike Damage
59.2% Win Rate21.6% Pick Rate

Best Win Rate Build

Starting Items
Stealth Ward
Stealth Ward (0 gold) Active (210 - 120s, max 2 charges)
Places an Invisible Stealth Ward that grants vision for 90-120 seconds.
Mosstomper Seedling
Mosstomper Seedling (450 gold) Jungle Companions
Summon a Mosstomper that assists you against monsters.
Mosstomper's Courage
The companion grows as you hunt monsters, empowering your Smite. When fully grown, it grants a shield that regenerates after killing large monsters or out of combat.
Health Potion
Health Potion (50 gold) Consume
Restores 120 Health over 15 seconds.
51.9% Win Rate1.0% Pick Rate
Highest Winrate Boots
Boots of Swiftness
Boots of Swiftness (1000 gold) 60 Move Speed
Fleetfooted
Reduce the effectiveness of Slows by 25%.
58.0% Win Rate3.2% Pick Rate
Ionian Boots of Lucidity
Ionian Boots of Lucidity (900 gold) 10 Ability Haste
45 Move Speed
Ionian Insight
Gain 10 Summoner Spell Haste.
52.9% Win Rate0.5% Pick Rate
Mercury's Treads
Mercury's Treads (1250 gold) 20 Magic Resist
45 Move Speed
30% Tenacity
50.3% Win Rate28.0% Pick Rate
Core Build
Serrated Dirk
Serrated Dirk (1000 gold) 20 Attack Damage
10 Lethality
->
Youmuu's Ghostblade
Youmuu's Ghostblade (2800 gold) 55 Attack Damage
18 Lethality
4% Move Speed
Haunt
Gain Move Speed while out of combat.
Wraith Step
Gain Move Speed and Ghosting for seconds.
The Collector
The Collector (3000 gold) 50 Attack Damage
10 Lethality
25% Critical Strike Chance
Death
Your damage executes champions that are below 5% Health.
Taxes
Champion kills grant 25 bonus gold.
Infinity Edge
Infinity Edge (3450 gold) 65 Attack Damage
25% Critical Strike Chance
40% Critical Strike Damage
59.4% Win Rate4.7% Pick Rate
Final Build
Lord Dominik's Regards
Lord Dominik's Regards (3100 gold) 35 Attack Damage
40% Armor Penetration
25% Critical Strike Chance
62.8% Win Rate4.7% Pick Rate
Other Items
Bloodthirster
Bloodthirster (3400 gold) 80 Attack Damage
15% Life Steal
Ichorshield
Convert excess healing from your Lifesteal to a Shield.
58.7% Win Rate21.2% Pick Rate
Immortal Shieldbow
Immortal Shieldbow (3000 gold) 55 Attack Damage
25% Critical Strike Chance
Lifeline
Taking damage that would reduce your Health below 30% grants a Shield for 3 seconds.
61.5% Win Rate19.3% Pick Rate
Guardian Angel
Guardian Angel (3200 gold) 55 Attack Damage
45 Armor
Rebirth
Upon taking lethal damage, restores 50% base Health and 100% max Mana after 4 seconds of Stasis.
58.0% Win Rate12.8% Pick Rate
Maw of Malmortius
Maw of Malmortius (3100 gold) 60 Attack Damage
15 Ability Haste
40 Magic Resist
Lifeline
Taking magic damage that would reduce your Health below 30% grants a magic damage Shield for 3 seconds and 10% Omnivamp until end of combat.
56.5% Win Rate3.7% Pick Rate
Mortal Reminder
Mortal Reminder (3300 gold) 35 Attack Damage
35% Armor Penetration
25% Critical Strike Chance
Grievous Wounds
Dealing physical damage applies 40% Wounds to enemy champions for 3 seconds.
57.0% Win Rate2.3% Pick Rate
Mercurial Scimitar
Mercurial Scimitar (3200 gold) 40 Attack Damage
40 Magic Resist
10% Life Steal

ACTIVE
Quicksilver
Removes all crowd control debuffs (excluding Airborne) and grants Move Speed.
58.1% Win Rate2.1% Pick Rate
Serpent's Fang
Serpent's Fang (2500 gold) 55 Attack Damage
15 Lethality
Shield Reaver
Damaging an enemy champion reduces Shields they gain by % for 3 seconds.
If they were not already affected by Shield Reaver, reduce Shields on them by %.
54.4% Win Rate1.8% Pick Rate

Graves vs Talon: Jungle Skill (abilities) Orders

Most Frequent Skill Order

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Q
End of the Line Graves fires an explosive shell that detonates after 1 second, or after colliding with terrain.
Q
Q
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Q
W
W
Smoke Screen Graves fires a smoke canister at the target area creating a cloud of smoke that reduces sight range. Enemies caught in the initial impact are dealt magic damage and have their Move Speed reduced briefly.
W
W
W
W
W
E
E
Quickdraw Graves dashes forward gaining an Armor boost for several seconds. If Graves dashes towards an enemy champion, gain two stacks of True Grit instead. Hitting enemies with basic attacks lowers the cooldown of this skill and refreshes the resistance boost.
E
E
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E
E
R
R
Collateral Damage Graves fires an explosive shell dealing heavy damage to the first champion it hits. After hitting a champion or reaching the end of its range, the shell explodes dealing damage in a cone.
R
R
R
Max Order: Q > E > W
43.4% Win Rate54.7% Pick Rate

Highest Win % Skill Order

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Q
End of the Line Graves fires an explosive shell that detonates after 1 second, or after colliding with terrain.
Q
Q
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Q
Q
R
W
Smoke Screen Graves fires a smoke canister at the target area creating a cloud of smoke that reduces sight range. Enemies caught in the initial impact are dealt magic damage and have their Move Speed reduced briefly.
W
W
W
W
W
R
E
Quickdraw Graves dashes forward gaining an Armor boost for several seconds. If Graves dashes towards an enemy champion, gain two stacks of True Grit instead. Hitting enemies with basic attacks lowers the cooldown of this skill and refreshes the resistance boost.
E
E
E
E
E
R
R
Collateral Damage Graves fires an explosive shell dealing heavy damage to the first champion it hits. After hitting a champion or reaching the end of its range, the shell explodes dealing damage in a cone.
R
R
R
Max Order: Q > E > W
99.2% Win Rate0.6% Pick Rate

Graves tips:

  • Smoke Screen can be used both to escape and to set up a kill.
  • Using Quickdraw to get into range and delivering a point blank Buckshot can do lots of damage.

Playing Against Talon

  • Talon's attacks are all physical damage. Build armor early to counter his burst damage.
  • Talon is heavily reliant on Shadow Assault to escape a fight. When it is down he's significantly more vulnerable.
  • Talon has unrivaled roaming ability. Make sure to keep track of his position or force him to stay in lane by pushing aggressively.

Graves Jungle other Matchups

Graves
+6.1%
Kayn

Graves vs Kayn

Graves
+4.8%
Trundle

Graves vs Trundle

Graves
+4.5%
Shaco

Graves vs Shaco

Graves
+4.3%
Sejuani

Graves vs Sejuani

Graves
+3.9%
Zed

Graves vs Zed

Graves
+3.2%
Rengar

Graves vs Rengar

Graves
+2.3%
Volibear

Graves vs Volibear

Graves
+1.3%
Pantheon

Graves vs Pantheon

Graves
+1.1%
Viego

Graves vs Viego

Graves
+1.1%
Elise

Graves vs Elise

Graves
+1.0%
Lee Sin

Graves vs Lee Sin

Graves
+0.7%
Gragas

Graves vs Gragas

Graves
+0.6%
Gwen

Graves vs Gwen

Graves
+0.6%
Xin Zhao

Graves vs Xin Zhao

Graves
-1.0%
Master Yi

Graves vs Master Yi

Graves
-1.0%
Nocturne

Graves vs Nocturne

Graves
-1.0%
Vi

Graves vs Vi

Graves
-1.6%
Hecarim

Graves vs Hecarim

Graves
-1.6%
Kha'Zix

Graves vs Kha'Zix

Graves
-1.7%
Fiddlesticks

Graves vs Fiddlesticks

Graves
-2.0%
Wukong

Graves vs Wukong

Graves
-2.1%
Briar

Graves vs Briar

Graves
-2.1%
Warwick

Graves vs Warwick

Graves
-2.1%
Zac

Graves vs Zac

Graves
-2.4%
Evelynn

Graves vs Evelynn

Graves
-2.9%
Diana

Graves vs Diana

Graves
-3.0%
Kindred

Graves vs Kindred

Graves
-3.0%
Naafiri

Graves vs Naafiri

Graves
-3.7%
Ekko

Graves vs Ekko

Graves
-5.1%
Amumu

Graves vs Amumu

Graves
-5.8%
Jarvan IV

Graves vs Jarvan IV

Graves
-6.0%
Lillia

Graves vs Lillia

Graves
-7.4%
Nunu & Willump

Graves vs Nunu & Willump

Graves
-7.9%
Nidalee

Graves vs Nidalee