Support Matchup

Karma vs Thresh

Patch: 15.24 (25.24)
League: Platinum+
Karma

Karma

the Enlightened One
Support
Karma Support Overall Win Rate
50.57%

Matchup Win Rate

47.3%
Karma vs Thresh Wins
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52.8%
Thresh vs Karma Wins
Thresh

Thresh

the Chain Warden
Support
Thresh Support Overall Win Rate
49.97%

Karma vs Thresh - Support Matchup Guide Patch 15.24 (25.24)

Karma Support vs Thresh Support - Who is stronger?

Karma Support has trouble against Thresh (47.3% win rate) based on 3465 games. This is a tough matchup for Karma players.

View detailed statistics below: items, runes, and counter builds for Karma Support vs Thresh Support in patch 15.24 (25.24), including win rates and pick rates. With proper study, this can improve your chances of victory up to 75.2% in this matchup.

Statistical Matchup Analysis

Current meta showdown: Karma (8.3% pick rate, 6th most popular out of 52 Support champions) versus Thresh (12.0%, 2nd place). These two support titans clash constantly, making matchup mastery a decisive factor in your climb. Surprising upset: Despite Karma's higher tier rating, Thresh wins 52.8% of encounters. This suggests Thresh's kit specifically counters Karma's playstyle, overriding general meta strength - approach this matchup with extra caution. Every edge matters: In this tough matchup, the proven Arcane Comet + Manaflow Band combination (54.3% win rate) plus optimal itemization Moonstone Renewer, Imperial Mandate, Shurelya's Battlesong, and Ionian Boots of Lucidity boosts your chances from 47.3% to 75.2% - potentially game-changing.

Vision advantage: Despite losing the direct matchup, Karma's superior warding (1.02 wards/min, 3rd among supports) can swing team fights and objectives in your favor. Damage doesn't equal wins: Karma outputs more damage (403 vs 376/min, 2nd place) but still loses the matchup. The issue likely lies in survivability, mobility, or damage timing rather than raw output. Strong individual performance: Karma maintains better KDA (2.80, 12th place vs 19th for Thresh), but loses the matchup overall. High KDA without wins suggests difficulty translating individual advantages into victory conditions.

Karma vs Thresh - Support Stats Comparison

Karma Support
Karma Support		Versus
Thresh Support
Thresh Support
A+TierA
47.3%Matchup Winrate52.8%
50.57%Role Winrate49.97%
#20Winrate Rank#27
8.3%Pickrate12.0%
2.8Average KDA2.7
286Gold per Minute286
1.02Wards per Minute0.83
403Damage per Minute376

How to Beat Thresh as Karma (Support)

Difficult matchup requiring deep understanding of game mechanics and flawless execution. Patience and proper macro play are the keys to victory in this confrontation.

The magic damage that Karma deals remains relevant in the late game. Look for opportunities to initiate or counter-initiate. Meanwhile, Thresh deals primarily magic damage (72.56%), additional magic resistance may be required.

An important advantage of Karma is superior vision control (ranked 3rd among supports) (versus 39th for Thresh), which provides better map control and safety for the team in important map areas. Meanwhile, their lower KDA (2.7 versus 2.8) suggests they are less effective in team fights.

Key aspects of the Karma Support versus Thresh Support matchup

In this difficult confrontation, it is critically important for the Karma player to avoid attempts to force trades and all-ins with the Thresh player, as the matchup requires a patient and calculated approach. Extended trades without clear tactical advantage often lead to unfavorable consequences, and ignoring opportunities to receive team support can be a fatal mistake for game progression.

Karma vs Thresh: Support Summoner Spells

Most Popular

Flash
Flash Teleports you a short distance toward your cursor.
Heal
Heal Restores Health and grants Move Speed to you and target allied champion.
46.3% Win Rate44.8% Pick Rate

Highest Win Rate

Flash
Flash Teleports you a short distance toward your cursor.
Teleport
Teleport After a brief channel, become untargetable and travel to an allied unit. Upgrades into Unleashed Teleport, which significantly increases travel speed.
59.7% Win Rate0.2% Pick Rate

Karma vs Thresh: Support Runes

Most Frequent Runes

Primary Path
Sorcery
Summon Aery
Summon Aery Damaging enemy champions with basic attacks or abilities sends Aery to them, dealing 10 - 50 based on level (+0.05 AP) (+0.1 bonus AD).

Empowering or protecting allies with abilities sends Aery to them, shielding them for 30 - 100 based on level (+0.05 AP) (+0.1 bonus AD).

Aery cannot be sent out again until she returns to you.

Summon Aery

Damaging enemy champions with basic attacks or abilities sends Aery to them, dealing 10 -…

Manaflow Band
Manaflow Band Hitting an enemy champion with an ability permanently increases your maximum mana by 25, up to 250 mana.

After reaching 250 bonus mana, restore 1% of your missing mana every 5 seconds.

Cooldown: 15 seconds

Manaflow Band

Hitting an enemy champion with an ability permanently increases your maximum ma…

Transcendence
Transcendence Gain bonuses upon reaching the following levels:
Level 5: +5 Ability Haste
Level 8: +5 Ability Haste
Level 11: On Champion takedown, reduce the remaining cooldown of basic abilities by 20%.

Transcendence

Gain bonuses upon reaching the following levels:Level 5: +5 Ability Haste Level…

Gathering Storm
Gathering Storm Every 10 min gain AP or AD, adaptive.

10 min: + 8 AP or 5 AD
20 min: + 24 AP or 14 AD
30 min: + 48 AP or 29 AD
40 min: + 80 AP or 48 AD
50 min: + 120 AP or 72 AD
60 min: + 168 AP or 101 AD
etc...

Gathering Storm

Every 10 min gain AP or AD, adaptive.10 min: + 8 AP or 5 AD 20 min: + 24 AP or …

Secondary Path
Resolve
Font of Life
Font of Life Impairing the movement of an enemy champion restores @BaseHeal@ Health to you and the lowest health nearby allied champion.

70% effect for Ranged Users.

Cooldown: 20s

Font of Life

Impairing the movement of an enemy champion restores @BaseHeal@ Health to you a…

Revitalize
Revitalize Gain 5% Heal and Shield Power.

Heals and shields you cast or receive are 10% stronger on targets below 40% health.

Revitalize

Gain 5% Heal and Shield Power.Heals and shields you cast or receive are 10% str…

Adaptive
Scaling Cooldown Reduction
Scaling Cooldown Reduction +8 Ability Haste

Scaling Cooldown Reduction

+8 Ability Haste

Adaptive Force
Adaptive Force Grants 9 Attack Damage or 9 Ability Power

Adaptive Force

Grants 9 Attack Damage or 9 Ability Power

+65 Health
+65 Health +65 Health

+65 Health

+65 Health

47.6% Win Rate56.4% Pick Rate

Best Win Rate Runes

Primary Path
Sorcery
Arcane Comet
Arcane Comet Damaging a champion with an ability hurls a comet at their location, or, if Arcane Comet is on cooldown, reduces its remaining cooldown.

Adaptive Damage: 30 - 130 based on level (+0.05 AP and +0.1 bonus AD)
Cooldown: 20 - 8s

Cooldown Reduction:
Single Target: 20%.
Area of Effect: 10%.
Damage over Time: 5%.

Arcane Comet

Damaging a champion with an ability hurls a comet at their location, or, if Arcane Comet …

Manaflow Band
Manaflow Band Hitting an enemy champion with an ability permanently increases your maximum mana by 25, up to 250 mana.

After reaching 250 bonus mana, restore 1% of your missing mana every 5 seconds.

Cooldown: 15 seconds

Manaflow Band

Hitting an enemy champion with an ability permanently increases your maximum ma…

Transcendence
Transcendence Gain bonuses upon reaching the following levels:
Level 5: +5 Ability Haste
Level 8: +5 Ability Haste
Level 11: On Champion takedown, reduce the remaining cooldown of basic abilities by 20%.

Transcendence

Gain bonuses upon reaching the following levels:Level 5: +5 Ability Haste Level…

Scorch
Scorch Your next damaging ability hit sets champions on fire dealing 20 - 40 bonus magic damage based on level after 1s.

Cooldown: 10s

Scorch

Your next damaging ability hit sets champions on fire dealing 20 - 40 bonus mag…

Secondary Path
Precision
Presence of Mind
Presence of Mind Damaging an enemy champion restores 6-50 (80% for ranged) mana or 6 energy.

Takedowns restore 15% of your maximum mana or energy.

Cooldown for damage restoration: 8s

Presence of Mind

Damaging an enemy champion restores 6-50 (80% for ranged) mana or 6 energy.Take…

Coup de Grace
Coup de Grace Deal 8% more damage to champions who have less than 40% health.

Coup de Grace

Deal 8% more damage to champions who have less than 40% health.

Adaptive
Adaptive Force
Adaptive Force Grants 9 Attack Damage or 9 Ability Power

Adaptive Force

Grants 9 Attack Damage or 9 Ability Power

Adaptive Force
Adaptive Force Grants 9 Attack Damage or 9 Ability Power

Adaptive Force

Grants 9 Attack Damage or 9 Ability Power

Scaling Health
Scaling Health Increases health from 10 to 180 HP across levels 1-18

Scaling Health

Increases health from 10 to 180 HP across levels 1-18

54.3% Win Rate1.6% Pick Rate

Karma vs Thresh: Support Item Builds

Most Popular Build

Starting Items
Stealth Ward
Stealth Ward (0 gold) Active (210 - 120s, max 2 charges)
Places an Invisible Stealth Ward that grants vision for 90-120 seconds.
World Atlas
World Atlas (400 gold)
Health Potion
Health Potion (50 gold) Consume
Restores 120 Health over 15 seconds.
45.1% Win Rate85.8% Pick Rate
Popular Boots
Ionian Boots of Lucidity
Ionian Boots of Lucidity (900 gold) 10 Ability Haste
45 Move Speed
Ionian Insight
Gain 10 Summoner Spell Haste.
47.0% Win Rate85.5% Pick Rate
Sorcerer's Shoes
Sorcerer's Shoes (1100 gold) 12 Magic Penetration
45 Move Speed
47.6% Win Rate5.0% Pick Rate
Boots of Swiftness
Boots of Swiftness (1000 gold) 60 Move Speed
Fleetfooted
Reduce the effectiveness of Slows by 25%.
52.5% Win Rate1.8% Pick Rate
Core Build
Lost Chapter
Lost Chapter (1200 gold) 40 Ability Power
300 Mana
10 Ability Haste
Enlighten
Levelling up restores 20% max Mana over 3 seconds.
->
Malignance
Malignance (2700 gold) 85 Ability Power
600 Mana
15 Ability Haste
Scorn
Gain 20 Ultimate Ability Haste.
Hatefog
Damaging a champion with your Ultimate burns the ground beneath them for 3s, dealing magic damage per second and reducing their Magic Resist.
Imperial Mandate
Imperial Mandate (2250 gold) 60 Ability Power
20 Ability Haste
125% Base Mana Regen
Coordinated Fire (0s) per target
Slowing or Immobilizing an enemy champion marks them for 5 seconds. Ally champion damage detonates the mark, dealing magic damage equal to 10% of current health.
Shurelya's Battlesong
Shurelya's Battlesong (2200 gold) 50 Ability Power
15 Ability Haste
4% Move Speed
125% Base Mana Regen
Inspiring Speech
Grant nearby allies 30% Move Speed for 4 seconds.
41.8% Win Rate4.3% Pick Rate
Final Build
Opportunity
Opportunity (2700 gold) 55 Attack Damage
15 Lethality
Preparation
After being out of combat with Champions for 8 seconds gain Lethality. This Lethality lasts for 3 seconds after dealing damage to champions.
Extraction
When a champion that you damaged within 3 seconds dies, gain 200 decaying Move Speed for 1.5 seconds.
0.0% Win Rate9.2% Pick Rate

Best Win Rate Build

Starting Items
Oracle Lens
Oracle Lens (0 gold) Active (160 - 100s, max 2 charges)
Reveals enemy Stealth Wards and traps around you for 6 seconds.
Control Ward
Control Ward (75 gold) Consume
Places a Control Ward that grants vision and reveals enemy Stealth Wards, traps and Camouflaged enemies.
World Atlas
World Atlas (400 gold)
67.0% Win Rate0.2% Pick Rate
Highest Winrate Boots
Boots of Swiftness
Boots of Swiftness (1000 gold) 60 Move Speed
Fleetfooted
Reduce the effectiveness of Slows by 25%.
52.5% Win Rate1.8% Pick Rate
Sorcerer's Shoes
Sorcerer's Shoes (1100 gold) 12 Magic Penetration
45 Move Speed
47.6% Win Rate5.0% Pick Rate
Ionian Boots of Lucidity
Ionian Boots of Lucidity (900 gold) 10 Ability Haste
45 Move Speed
Ionian Insight
Gain 10 Summoner Spell Haste.
47.0% Win Rate85.5% Pick Rate
Core Build
Bandleglass Mirror
Bandleglass Mirror (900 gold) 20 Ability Power
100% Base Mana Regen
10 Ability Haste
->
Moonstone Renewer
Moonstone Renewer (2200 gold) 25 Ability Power
200 Health
20 Ability Haste
125% Base Mana Regen
Starlit Grace
Healing or shielding an ally chains the effect to another ally (excluding yourself), healing 30% or shielding 35% of the original amount.
Imperial Mandate
Imperial Mandate (2250 gold) 60 Ability Power
20 Ability Haste
125% Base Mana Regen
Coordinated Fire (0s) per target
Slowing or Immobilizing an enemy champion marks them for 5 seconds. Ally champion damage detonates the mark, dealing magic damage equal to 10% of current health.
Shurelya's Battlesong
Shurelya's Battlesong (2200 gold) 50 Ability Power
15 Ability Haste
4% Move Speed
125% Base Mana Regen
Inspiring Speech
Grant nearby allies 30% Move Speed for 4 seconds.
75.2% Win Rate1.3% Pick Rate
Final Build
Zhonya's Hourglass
Zhonya's Hourglass (3250 gold) 105 Ability Power
50 Armor

Time Stop
Enter Stasis for 2.5 seconds.
100.0% Win Rate9.0% Pick Rate
Other Items
Mikael's Blessing
Mikael's Blessing (2300 gold) 250 Health
100% Base Mana Regen
12% Heal and Shield Power
15 Ability Haste
Purify
Remove all crowd control debuffs (excluding Airborne and Suppression) from an ally champion and restore 100 - 250 Health.
0.0% Win Rate9.1% Pick Rate
Shadowflame
Shadowflame (3200 gold) 110 Ability Power
15 Magic Penetration
Cinderbloom
Magic and true damageCritically Strikes enemies below 40% Health, dealing 20% increased damage.
0.0% Win Rate9.1% Pick Rate
Void Staff
Void Staff (3000 gold) 95 Ability Power
40% Magic Penetration
0.0% Win Rate9.1% Pick Rate
Zhonya's Hourglass
Zhonya's Hourglass (3250 gold) 105 Ability Power
50 Armor

Time Stop
Enter Stasis for 2.5 seconds.
100.0% Win Rate9.0% Pick Rate
Luden's Companion
Luden's Companion (2850 gold) 100 Ability Power
600 Mana
10 Ability Haste
Fire
Damaging Abilities fire 6 Shots that deal bonus magic damage to the target and nearby enemies. Remaining Shots fire on the primary target, dealing 20% damage.
0.0% Win Rate9.0% Pick Rate
Dawncore
Dawncore (2500 gold) 45 Ability Power
16% Heal and Shield Power
100% Base Mana Regen
First Light
Gain 2% Heal and Shield Power and 10 Ability Power per 100% Base Mana Regen.
100.0% Win Rate9.0% Pick Rate

Karma vs Thresh: Support Skill (abilities) Orders

Most Frequent Skill Order

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Q
Inner Flame Karma sends forth a ball of spirit energy that explodes and deals damage upon hitting an enemy unit.

Mantra Bonus: In addition to the explosion, Mantra increases the destructive power of her Inner Flame, creating a cataclysm which deals damage after a short delay.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
W
W
Focused Resolve Karma creates a tether between herself and a targeted enemy, dealing damage and revealing them. If the tether is not broken, the enemy will be rooted and damaged again.

Mantra Bonus: Karma strengthens the link, healing herself and extending the root duration.
W
W
W
W
W
E
E
Inspire Karma summons a protective shield that absorbs incoming damage and increases the Move Speed of the protected ally.

Mantra Bonus: Energy radiates out from her target, strengthening the initial shield and applying Inspire to nearby allied champions.
E
E
E
E
E
R
R
Mantra Karma empowers her next ability to do an additional effect. Mantra is available at level 1 and does not require a skill point.
R
R
R
Max Order: Q > E > W
43.4% Win Rate55.0% Pick Rate

Highest Win % Skill Order

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Q
Inner Flame Karma sends forth a ball of spirit energy that explodes and deals damage upon hitting an enemy unit.

Mantra Bonus: In addition to the explosion, Mantra increases the destructive power of her Inner Flame, creating a cataclysm which deals damage after a short delay.
Q
Q
Q
Q
Q
R
W
Focused Resolve Karma creates a tether between herself and a targeted enemy, dealing damage and revealing them. If the tether is not broken, the enemy will be rooted and damaged again.

Mantra Bonus: Karma strengthens the link, healing herself and extending the root duration.
W
W
W
W
W
R
E
Inspire Karma summons a protective shield that absorbs incoming damage and increases the Move Speed of the protected ally.

Mantra Bonus: Energy radiates out from her target, strengthening the initial shield and applying Inspire to nearby allied champions.
E
E
E
E
E
R
R
Mantra Karma empowers her next ability to do an additional effect. Mantra is available at level 1 and does not require a skill point.
R
R
R
Max Order: Q > E > W
60.0% Win Rate0.8% Pick Rate

Karma tips:

  • Gathering Fire rewards aggressive play. Look to land abilities and basic attacks on your opponent to lower Mantra's cooldown and stay on the offensive.
  • When using Focused Resolve, slow your opponents with Inner Flame or speed yourself up with Inspire if you're having trouble sticking to a target.
  • Don't be too conservative with Mantra. Gathering Fire is strongest in teamfights, making it easy to recharge Mantra multiple times.

Playing Against Thresh

  • Thresh's Death Sentence has a long cast time. Watch for the cast to begin to take evasive actions.
  • Intentionally breaking a wall of The Box can allow a vulnerable ally to escape unscathed.
  • Thresh relies on collecting souls for a portion of his defense and damage. Try punishing him when he moves to collect them.

Karma Support other Matchups

Karma
+5.7%
Neeko

Karma vs Neeko

Karma
+5.5%
Mel

Karma vs Mel

Karma
+4.9%
Shaco

Karma vs Shaco

Karma
+3.1%
Alistar

Karma vs Alistar

Karma
+2.6%
Vel'Koz

Karma vs Vel'Koz

Karma
+2.3%
Morgana

Karma vs Morgana

Karma
+2.1%
Seraphine

Karma vs Seraphine

Karma
+2.0%
Tahm Kench

Karma vs Tahm Kench

Karma
+1.9%
Xerath

Karma vs Xerath

Karma
+1.8%
Leona

Karma vs Leona

Karma
+1.7%
Swain

Karma vs Swain

Karma
+1.6%
Soraka

Karma vs Soraka

Karma
+1.5%
Lux

Karma vs Lux

Karma
+1.4%
Renata Glasc

Karma vs Renata Glasc

Karma
+1.3%
Brand

Karma vs Brand

Karma
+1.3%
Senna

Karma vs Senna

Karma
+1.2%
Rell

Karma vs Rell

Karma
+1.1%
Rakan

Karma vs Rakan

Karma
+1.1%
Maokai

Karma vs Maokai

Karma
+1.1%
Poppy

Karma vs Poppy

Karma
+1.0%
Zyra

Karma vs Zyra

Karma
+0.7%
Pantheon

Karma vs Pantheon

Karma
+0.4%
Lulu

Karma vs Lulu

Karma
+0.3%
Pyke

Karma vs Pyke

Karma
-1.0%
Zilean

Karma vs Zilean

Karma
-1.2%
Milio

Karma vs Milio

Karma
-1.3%
Bard

Karma vs Bard

Karma
-1.7%
Janna

Karma vs Janna

Karma
-2.1%
Yuumi

Karma vs Yuumi

Karma
-2.1%
Nautilus

Karma vs Nautilus

Karma
-2.3%
Braum

Karma vs Braum

Karma
-2.9%
Nami

Karma vs Nami

Karma
-3.7%
Sona

Karma vs Sona

Karma
-4.3%
Blitzcrank

Karma vs Blitzcrank

Karma
-5.3%
Fiddlesticks

Karma vs Fiddlesticks